Friar Walter de DISS


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7/97 (Y) C - N/1 Friar Walter de Disse Bur. 14.8.1404 Near High Altar of the Carmelite Priory in Norwich 1372 December 2nd (from the History of Norfolk Vol 1) At an assembly there was a discussion respecting a barge to be made by letter of the Lord King under his Privy Seal directed to the bailiffs and community. Decide to go to Yarmouth to order the barge. [I think that Friar Walter is mentioned but unfortunately I cannot check as these books are no longer available in Barrow Library. They were sold as nobody ever read them !!! ] 1379 October 19th (from the History of Norfolk Vol 1) At an assembly it was ordained that Walter Nyche and Roger de Ridelynton shall go to Yarmouth for making the account with John Hakon mariner for the keeping of the barge. Also there were elected two bailiffs and six citizens to confer with Friar Walter de Disce on behalf of John Hakon concerning the keeping of the barge. (Walter de Disce moved in Royal Circles as he was confessor to John of Gaunt and his wife Constance ) Carmelite A White Friar or Friar of the Order of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, in Palestine, founded there circa 1156, made a mendicant order in 1247 ---- the habit brown, with a white cloak and scapular: a nun of a similar order (from 1452) 1382 Walter Dissy Proctor Oxford Pointers Oxf 218 (See Below ) (from the History of Norfolk Vol 1) Walter of Disse. Carmelite Friar at Norwich one of the most ignorant of all that convent in his youth; at length he turned the reverse, continually applying himself to gain knowledge and learning, in which he so much profited, that he took his Doctors degree in Cambridge, with the utmost honours. He was afterwards confessor to John Duke of Lancaster and Aquitain, King of Leon and Castile and also Constance his Queen; and a great stickler for Pope Urban and other Popes, that were by him and his faction named anti-popes of whom he obtained through the Duke's favour certain faculties to be distributed to such as would pray, and pay for them, of which one was to make all those, whom he thought good, the Pope's Chaplains according to form of law,and the custom used in the Court in Rome: and because such as obtained this favour enjoyed great liberties, (viz to hold as many ecclesiastical preferments) . Another Bull gave him power to create Doctors, and as many prothonotaries; to reconsecrate such things or places as had been profaned; to legitimate Bastards and such like. In 1387 he was made Pope's legate a latere, to preach up the Crusades against the anti-popes faction; granting indulgences to those that helped or went to these wars in a sample a manner as if they went against the common enemies of religion, the Turks : This he did in Urban and Pope Boniface the ninth's time with success and that not in England only, but in Castile, Portugal Aquitain , Leon, Navarre, Gasgoine and several parts; at last he returned to his Monastery in which he died and was buried August 14th 1404, near the High Altar of their Church Diss or Dysse, Walter (died 1404 ) -- (from the Dictionary of National Biography published in 1888) A Carmelite, is supposed to have been a native of the town of Diss, twenty-two miles south-west of # Norwich, and to have been educated in the Carmelite House of the latter city (Bale,Scriptt. Brit. Cat. vii. 26, pp 527f.) He studied at Cambridge, where he proceeded to the degree of Doctor of Divinity. So much is gathered from his subscription to the condemnation of the twenty-four conclusions of Wycliffe passed by the council held at the Blackfriars, London, 21 May 1382 ( Fasciculi Zizaniorum, p.286,ed W.W. Shirley ). Leland conjectures ( Commentarii de Scriptoribus Britannicis,cdl. p.393 ) that he was a student also at Paris and Rome. That at least he belonged to Cambridge and was an opponent of Wycliffe appears certain. Neverless it has been maintained by Antony a Wood and by others after him that Diss is the same person with Walter Dasch, who is mentioned as a fellow of Oriel College Oxford, in 1373, and who served as Proctor in that University in 1382, this being the very year in which Diss is described as being in the proceedings of the Blackfriars council as áCantabrigiae' ( Wood thinks he only went to Cambridge at a later time), and in which Dasch took up an attitude of distinct friendliness to the Wycliffite party in Oxford; for at a later session of the same council, 12 June 1382 , áinventus est suspectus cancellarius (Thomas Bryghtwell) de favore et credentia h²resum et errorum, et pr²cipue Philippi ( Repyndon) et Nicolae (Hereford) et Wycelyff .......; et nedum ipse, sed etiam procuratores universitatis Walterus Dasch et Johannes Hunteman' (Fase . Ziz.. p.304) . It is safe therefore to distinguish these two persons hitherto identified , and to leave Oxford the credit of the Lollard proctor, while Cambridge is to be held to have produced the catholic friar, Walter Diss. A few years later Diss was employed by Uban V1, in whose allegiance , as against Clement V11, England continued unshaken. He had been for some time confessor to John of Gaunt , Duke of Lancaster, and to his wife Constance, through whom this prince pretended to the crown of Castile, and Pope Urban seized the opportunity of using this claim as a means of asserting his own authority in Spain, where that of his rival was generally acknowledged. In 1386 indulgences were offered to those who should support John of Gaunt's expedition ( see Richard11's proclamation on the subject , dated 11 April, in Rymer , Federa, vii 507 f. ed. 1709), and Diss was named papal legate to give it the character of a crusade. He was authorised, according to Walsingham (a. 1837) and the other St. Albans chronicler, to grant certain privileges, ánon sine pecunia,' and to appoint papal chaplains on the same footing as those holding office in the Roman Curia --- also, it seems, in return for a considerable payment --- to assist the mission. No less than fifty were to be thus appointed, and there was a rush of applicants which filled the more sober Benedictines with jealous disgust (Walsingham , Gest. Abbat. Monast. S.Albanu, ii. 417 et seq. ed. Riley 1867). Among those, however, so appointed was an Austin Friar Peter Pateshull, who made considerable sensation by at once attaching himself to the Lollards, and in consequence of this mishap , if we are to believe Walsingham, Diss never proceeded to Spain at all. The common account, on the other hand, repeated from Tritthemius (who ascribes his commission to Boniface 1X) makes him Papal Legate in England, Spain, ( i.e. Castile), Portugal, Navarre, Aragon, and Gascony, where he was deputed to counteract the influence of schismatics ( meaning adherents of Clement Vii ), and also of heretics in general. A Carmelite sermon preached in 1386, and printed in the appendix to the áFasciculi Zizaniorum,' page 508, confirms the opinion that Diss's mission was not confined to Spain, buyt does not state that the mission was actually carried out. Of the rest of Diss's career nothing is recorded. He seems to have retired to the Carmellite monastery at Norwich, where he was buried about 1404. (5 Henry 1V). Diss's eminence as a preacher is commemorated by his biographers; it may indeed be guessed from his appointment as legate in circumstances of much difficulty. He is said by Tritthemius to have written commentaries áSuper quosdam Psalmos,' áSermones de Tempore,' Sermones de Sanctis' áContra Lollardos,' and De Schismate'. This last is apparently the áCarmen de schismate ecclesi²' (inc. áHelyconis rivulo modice dispersus' possibly only three fragments of a larger poem --- bearing his name, and printed by J.M.Lydius in his edition of áNicolai de Clemangiis Opera,' pp.31-4 (Leydon, 1613 quarto) . Another work by Diss, entitled áQu²stiones Theologie,' was found by Bishop Bale in the library at Norwich ( see his manuscript collections, Bodl. Libr. Cod. Selden., supra, 64 f.50). In his printed áScriptt. Brit. Cat.) Bale ascribes to him also the following writings: áLectura Theologi²,' áEx Augustino et Anselmo,' á Determinationes Vari²,' áAd Ecclesiarum Pr²sides,' and áEpistol² ad Urbanum et Bonifacium. Concise Dictionary of National Biography Published 1903 Diss or Dysse Walter (died 1404) Carmelite D.D. Cambridge. Subscribed the Blackfriars Council's condemnation of Wycliffe's twenty-four conclusions, 1382, named Papal Legate by Pope Urban V1 to give the character of a crusade to John of Gaunt's expedition into Castile 1386, where the rival pope Clement V11 had much influence: never went to Spain; Left theological works on manuscript.


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